LAW ENFORCEMENT V. PEEJ

Thursday, March 19, 2009

US Attorney Eric Holder, FBI and Federal Judges... Are You Paying Attention?

Perverted Justice Foundation Inc., is a non-profit 501c organization, which means it has a tax exempt status by the IRS and the Federal Government. Subsidiaries and Affiliates of Perverted Justice (meaning they are members of and/or are directly involved with Perverted Justice members) are: absolutezerounited.blogspot.com (and their affiliates), The PlunaFoundation (also a non-profit), Judy Cornett and her SafetyZoneAdvocacy.org, just to name a few.

Think these organizations are great? Think they are on the "up and up"? Think again!

Here are a few excerpts and actual quotes from a police blog ( Officer.com) that reveals the goings on behind these organizations and what REAL Law Enforcement really thinks about them.

* "We call them vigilante sites," said Sgt. Dave Jones of the San Diego Police Department's Internet Crimes Against Children Task Force.

* Jones of the San Diego Police Department said his Internet Crimes Against Children Task Force takes tips from anyone, but that information must be confirmed by law enforcement. "Evidence provided by groups such as Perverted Justice is almost useless, he said. "It's actually more work for us than if we find the leads ourselves because we have to go back and redo everything they did to confirm what they did."

Jones said he's worked cases where Perverted Justice got in the way of criminal investigators. "We've had them hit on undercover operations we were going on," Jones said. "Law enforcement has gone back to them and said 'Hey, we're working this site. Back off. "They basically go, 'Screw you. We're doing what we want.'"

* "www.perverted-justice.com is EXACTLY why vigilantism can totally mess up an innocent person's life."

* "I am ALL for catching pedophiles but I will NEVER sacrifice the rights of any American to do it. These sickos will be brought down by the rules of our nation and not by the rules of an inaccurate web site. They should be doing this privately to protect all parties involved; especially the suspect's family members."

* "And to label people pedophiles because they don't agree with the vigilante practices of this web site deserves great shame."

* Just something to consider-- and for everyone else:
"There is documented proof that there has been THREE contributors at perverted-justice.com (that is known of so far) that were between the ages of 15 and 17 years old- meaning 15 to 17 year olds going into chat rooms having hardcore sex chats with adults in their 20s, 30s, and older-- and yet nobody [speaks]out against that?"

* "What is this world coming to? I stand up and say people have rights and am accused of defending pedophiles, yet no one seems concerned that teenage children have been working for perverted-justice.com going out having hardcore sex chats and watching men masturbate on webcam?"

* "I sure hope that some police officers at this forum actually take the time to check out the information I have posted or check out http://www.corrupted-justice.com because they have been reporting it to the FBI who is actively investigating. "

* "I do NOT condone, support or even like the fact that guys would prey on minors online or offline but am even more angered that Xavier Von Erck (the owner of perverted-justice.com) would KNOWINGLY use minors to have sex chats with adults and then not even report them to the police!!"

* "... but they DO target neighbors, co-workers, bosses, and spouses and children of busts. So if you think because Joe Schmoe down the street had an illegal chat, that means I have to endure being harassed and having my rights trampled on, you are sadly mistaken."

*  "I will compose something polite, and factual that you yourself can click on a link to prove, which will show that the "busts" are not the only ones getting harassed-- alot of innocent people who are around a bust are getting harassed, including the children of busts. But if you think that is acceptable to have hundreds of anonymous cyber terrorists calling a neighbors house harassing them, and harassing a boss into firing a "bust" , then I sure hope you are not wearing a badge."

* "Oh and for the record, PeeJ has 17 thousand plus members MOST OF WHICH signed up, made an initial post (a requirement to see the forums) and then never came back to the PJ site after that. So the majority of their members are people who joined to see what it was about and never came back, they have about one to two hundred AT THE MOST who actually support them and do the harassing, threatening, intimidating, and all the other stuff they are so proud of."

* "How many times do they have to say that the person is NOT the right person before they stop harassing the wrong person???"

* "That is just SOME of the information we have collected directly proving perverted-justice.com targets the wrong people and has the wrong information posted on their website."

* "Now, that bust not only kept whipping his penis out on webcam in front of his 2 year old son (the child they are tracking down info on) but the bust also had a bowl of drugs sitting within reach of the child, and those at perverted-justice.com did NOT report it to police OR even child protection services.. Is perverted-justice.com really what you want to believe is protecting children?? People can not seriously be that naive, can they??"

* "I am sorry those at perverted-justice.com do not feel that those who break federal statutes should be behind bars. Some of us want to ensure criminals are behind bars where they belong, not just having their kids, neighbors, bosses, etc. harassed. But I guess it depends on a persons own morals-- if they feel federal crimes are up to them to decide what punishment should be dealt out, then I guess they should keep up what they are doing. I for one, want to ensure each bust gets locked up for many years, not just harassed into changing usernames so they can prey on more minors. I actually care about protecting children from predators, not just making predators uncomfortable.. But hey, that is just me.."

" What is utterly shocking to me is anyone who even posts at a police forum would not accept that some anonymous thugs on the internet accusing someone of being a pedophile does not make them one. So I could claim you are a wannabe pedophile and post your family's personal information and you think that is acceptable? That is EXACTLY what those at perverted-justice.com do. They have a chat with someone using a screen name. Then they have that person call. Then they use the phone number to trace all kind of information about that person. There has been quite a few times they have had the wrong information. Hell quite a few of them, they can not even find the right address for."

* "Every REAL police officer at these forums KNOW that a person is innocent until proven guilty in a court of law. A police officer can actually witness a guy robbing a bank and they still have to call him the alleged perpetrator. That is because he has rights. Perverted-justice.com does not care about rights. I am not defending pedophiles- I want them all to rot in jail once they are found guilty in a court of law. But I am saying that even those accused by some anonymous thugs on the internet have a right to face their accuser in a court of law, the right to remain silent, the right to be judged NOT by a bunch of cyber terrorists but rather by a judge or a jury, all of whom have to be held accountable if they make mistakes."

* "Those at perverted-justice.com HAVE made plenty of mistakes and HAVE broken laws, yet there is no accountability because they are anonymous, so they can do anything they want and get away with it." "If you think that is alright, then I sure as helll hope you go back to class and learn about people having actual rights-- rights that MUST be upheld."

*SOURCE* Officer.com - http://forums.officer.com/forums/showthread.php?t=25927&page=2